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Astrology of Karl Rove – Obama adm critic

Is Republican attack dog Karl Rove more vicious now than when he was operating from the White House?

Rove’s unencumbered-by-facts critiques of the Obama administration suit the current occupants of the White House just fine – they play up their differences, to be sure.

But are there astrological factors in his natal chart to account for Mr. Rove’s way of politicking?

Mrs. Rove’s bouncing Christmas gift of a baby boy was born Dec 25, 1950 in Denver, Colorado (time unknown) with Sun in Capricorn, Moon in Cancer for the entire day and night.

This Earth-Water blend gives an innate wisdom to know what’s important and what is not – great for a strategist, but a strategist with a completely subjective view.

The shadow/unconscious side of Earth-Water is materialistic, possessive, has a limited viewpoint, and sees change and challenge as threatening.

(Perhaps the way Rove ‘resigned’ from his White House duties and the constant threat of indictment – if real – has something to do with his current strategy of playing an offensive game – successfully, he hopes. And Rove has been a player in Washington long enough to have ‘the goods’ on them all. Or perhaps he just can’t help himself.)

Sun Cap-Moon Can is a blend that is highly sensitive to the opinions of others (surprised?) and bestows on Mr. Rove strong powers of observation.

(Well, no one has ever accused him of being stupid – I say he’s one-sided and cares nothing for the bigger picture which fairly should include Everyone, not just neocon Zionists.)

An extremely capable manager, this blend is ambitious and conservative yet open to new ideas (as long as they promote the GOP, I’m guessing.)

Loving tradition, Cap-Can is not adverse to new technologies that aid in better doing what it wants to do.

This is a self-reflective personality with an exalted Moon in her own sign of Cancer, and Sun ruled by traditional, status-quo-loving Saturn which gives it a tough vs tender demeanor. Said to be loved by his friends, Mr. Rove is something of a softie inside!

Yet career often takes precedence over the personal side of life and rules the day.

His reflective moments are spent assessing his own goals and needs and the best way of satisfying them – not necessarily a negative thing for anyone to do, but some folk seem to be driven to do it to the point of harming or disenfranchising others, don’t they?

Basically, this blend operates on the theory that much of life is harsh, challenging, and unsentimental and that one must end with real achievements to one’s credit. It thrives on having ‘a mission’ which may be one factor that gives Rove his zealous streak (another being Mars/Chiron = Mercury, with Mars/Chiron being the ‘sacred warrior’ archetype, Mercury = thinking processes; communication style. There is also an out-of-sign conjunction of Sun and Chiron in Sag – a crusader aspect.)

One talent of the Cap-Can combo is an ability to combine hard facts with imagination – and his critical comments on the current administration certainly mix truth with wild fiction to muddy issues (and Earth-Water = mud.)

To me, Rove (and Cheney) seem to be taking the “sour grapes Republicans” thing to greater depths than they’ve ever been taken before.

Now, for the sake of brevity, here are Mr. Rove’s natal aspects to his Sun and Moon based on a Noon chart, Dec 25, 1950, Denver, CO mst:

Sun sextile Jupiter (0A09): the closest applying – defining – aspect to his Sun (Noon or not) which gives him self-confidence, seriousness about life direction, great communication ability, devastating debating skills, intellectual enthusiasm, a quick response to opportunities, and a love of sports.

Sun opposite Uranus (4A11): high-strung, irritable, nervous disposition; fear of competition; undermines the previously mentioned self-confidence; difficulty compromising with others which may hinder plans; lack of recognition of other’s viewpoints which may be just as valid; refuses to be confined yet confines others; needs frequent relaxation.

Sun sesquiquadrate (135 degr) Pluto (1A10): applying, this interlaced square gives extreme awareness and an urge toward dynamic interactions and the promotion of one’s ideas; plus, powerful connections with others.

Sun square Saturn (1S37): early conflicts about self-worth become self-assurance in adulthood; naturally defensive; comes on strong.

There are two squares to natal Moon which indicate a possible T-square between Mercury 17Cap44 Rx opposing Moon, and Neptune 19Lib20…

Moon-Mercury = Neptune: an active imagination; whims and notions; wrong thinking; hypersentience; falsehood; exposure to lies and calumny.

Moon square Neptune: difficulty separating fact from fiction; a highly developed imagination causes confusion when faced with facts; reality is ‘adjusted’ to make it emotionally tolerable; an escapist.

Mercury square Neptune: imagination interferes with logical thinking; fear of responsibility can cause emotional and material problems; supposedly logical arguments can convince the self that an unbearable reality doesn’t exist (Rs lost lost and more lost?); distortion complicates matters so that truth is completely hidden; extreme sensitivity causes superficial problems to become exaggerated; fear of competition (this keeps turning up in his chart) but self-control and developing confidence mitigate the fear; too many interests at once can bring out weakness under pressure.

Plus, Moon opposing both Mercury and Venus causes emotional issues which I won’t go into here except to say that Moon-Venus oppositions tend toward minding other people’s business too much!

Actually I had hoped with the Bush administration’s day passed that I would never have to mention Karl Rove or his natal chart again, but little did I know he’d soon be on TV to pontificate his confusions and diversions to the detriment of the country.

Why, it’s deja-poo all over again!

Now you may wish to check out a real time post I wrote on the occasion of Karl Rove’s last official day in Washington which includes a few notes on his Secondary Progressions and a couple of midpoint pictures from his Minor Progressions (mental plane) for August 31, 2007 – this post contains no edits or updates, just so ya know.


Sources: Sun-Moon info – ‘Sun Sign-Moon Sign,’ Charles & Suzi Harvey; ‘Planets in Aspect,’ Robert Pelletier; sesquiquadrate info: ‘The Astrology of Relationship’ by Michael R. Meyer. Many thanks!

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  1. Hi, so glad to have found this site! This is really interesting and was wondering if you could help me understand my chart as I just can’t make any sense of it! Thanks



    April 13, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    • Glad to ‘meet’ you , Al, and thanks for visiting and commenting.

      That’s a serious task you seek for this time-limited blogger and you would greatly benefit from a consultation with a practicing astrologer if you haven’t so far. Taped readings bwo phone call-appts (contact astrologer with your request and birth data and set an agreed upon appt time to call them), or emailed reports are available from most sources. I take it you have your chart calculated already and basic tutorials are to be found online as well.

      Sad to say, I’m not doing readings for the time being due to time/job restrictions, but would recommend finding an astrologer who does readings on a regular basis.

      You may wish to check with: Julie Demboski, Lynn Hayes, Erin Sullivan, or any whose sites, writings, and approaches interest you. Check my sidebar list – there are many excellent ones about the place.

      Or – get busy, collect an Astrology book library, and use your own chart to study the ancient art!!! ;p

      Thanks a bunch for your interest, Jude

      ps: just remembered that Bob Marks offers free Astrology lessons which you may wish to check out. jc



      April 13, 2009 at 10:45 pm

      • Hello, I will have a look at the sidebar and the astrologers you mentioned, thanks for letting me know!



        April 14, 2009 at 12:01 am

      • Sure thing! ;p



        April 14, 2009 at 2:52 pm

  2. Ditto on Gingrich,



    April 12, 2009 at 6:44 pm

  3. Thanks for this–brilliant as always! I find it hard to accept that someone so capable could be so one sided–but maybe that’s the essence of a Sun/ Moon natal opp, and an easy way to feel ‘right’–Have a good one! Julie



    April 11, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    • Thanks, Julie!

      It is a shame that one as intelligent can be so undermining to half or more of the country. But his intelligence has been used for what purposes only he really knows, I suppose.

      (As you know, ‘one-world-government’ and the destruction of national sovereignty is part of the ultimate plan, imo.)

      And I consider the brilliant Mr. Gingrich to be of a similar nature.

      (insert frowny face) Jude



      April 11, 2009 at 7:44 pm

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